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Budget FPV Setup: HappyModel Mobula8 with Walksnail Goggles
Hey guys,
As my first FPV setup I am thinking about getting this:
-happymodel mobula8 walksnail
-Walksnail Avatar Goggles L
-Radiomaster pocket
I know I still need a charger, batteries (2s I believe), and Some other stuff. I will probably be flying primarily outside, and I want a very budget way into FPV that doesn't lock me into some obscure ecosystem.
If you have any comments please let me know.
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Mobula8 is a tough bugger, and fast enough for urban exploring. No danger for civilians :)
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this is great! the meteors/pavo are nice as well, I have happymodel and betafpv stuff. 2s 2"-2.5" is probably the future for most pilots and you could drop the mob8 into a carbon frame like the kayoumini down the road if you want to get more adventurous. Ciotti fpv on YouTube does 2-3 in depth streams on these size drones every week if you want more research material.
the toothstor by vifly is probably the best 2s charger. https://www.diyfpv.com/product/draft-vifly-toothstor-4-port-2s-balance-charger-with-storage-mode
but the only way you aren't getting locked into any type of proprietary video system is analog. Walksnail has avatar and ascent right now, we have no idea which one theyre going to stick with in the long run or for how long. not saying dont get it, I also have avatar, but its with the knowledge that its probably going to eol in the next year or two.
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Do you think I should start analog or digital?
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its honestly harder to answer that now with the new cheap digital systems. I went analog->digital->analog, now it's dji for work drones, analog for freestyle/fun drones. Digital has better image quality, analog has better power consumption, signal penetration, lighter weight, and lower latency.
Cheap analog is still generally/probably the best to bash around while you learn, then you start to think youre getting the hang of things and want better image quality for YouTube so you get a digital system, then the novelty wears off and its back to analog when your development gets bottlenecked by latency or youre bored of just flying around looking at stuff. But that was a several year cycle for me and I definitely appreciate each system for their specific strengths.
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Not sure walksnail is a good choice if you don’t want to be locked into a system since you’ll be locked into walksnail. While I’ve never used it myself I’ve mostly heard negative feedback about it. Plus my understanding is caddx has been working on their new budget hd systems and is no longer producing new walksnail hardware or updating their current software. Really analog is the only video system that doesn’t lock you into specific manufacturers.
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The only thing about analog is that... well it's analog. It is the cheaper option and has low latency, but it doesn't look great. I kind of want to start digital, because it seems like that is the direction the hobby is going in. I am still strongly considering going analog. The big thing I don't want is, for example, I looked into caddx's other system the ascent, and it had like three bnfs and not a big community around it like DJI systems. Do you think I should go analog, or do you think being stuck into one system isn't that bad?
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@Ironclad_8260 Something to consider is that some analog goggles support HDMI in, which would let you get a digital VRX (which is usually cheaper than another pair of goggles) and use multiple systems. The problem is that those analog goggles with HDMI in are more expensive than a lot of the digital goggles.
Personally, I fly really cheap analog, but am waiting for updates on the caddx ascent system.
If the new ascent goggle (that i heard may be in the works) shows that ascent may replace Avatar, I may buy into that system.
There may also be compatibility between Ascent and OpenIPC with some bootloader shenanagins, which could make an open source software to run on ascent hardware (and possibly other systems hardware too)
I am quite uncertain at the moment about these things, but I will see how things shake out.
On another note, I have a happymodel Mobula8 analog and I love it! its my favorite thing for freestyle, indoor and outdoor.
Dont worry about the lack of BNFs for the ascent system, adding a digital vtx to other drones is quite easy, and often doesnt even require soldering.
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@Ironclad_8260 I'm not on the analog train. I'm not a professional racer, and I don't want to go back to the 80's snowflake TV problems. I'm a digital bunny, I want to see the cool and gorgeous sights to see, not try and tune in to channel 9 and fight with my antenna for 30 minutes.
Analog goggles DO let you use multiple VX solutions with its input, but I'm not down with the wallet draining prices. Sure VTX is cheap with Analog, but so is the Caddx Ascent AND BetaFPV P1 systems. All systems will lock you in to there environment, the only thing that's versatile is Analog style goggles/Walksnail Goggles X.
I'm not in it to have the fancy stuff and the most Gucci gear, I just want to fly and IF I lose a drone, its not going to hurt the wallet to replace it.
Analog goggles DO let you use multiple VX solutions with its input, but I'm not down with the wallet draining prices. Sure VTX is cheap with Analog, but so is the Caddx Ascent AND BetaFPV P1 systems. All systems will lock you in to there environment, the only thing that's versatile is Analog style goggles/Walksnail Goggles X.
I'm not in it to have the fancy stuff and the most Gucci gear, I just want to fly and IF I lose a drone, its not going to hurt the wallet to replace it.
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I think that's a great little setup that's portable and should be an absolute BLAST to learn to fly and rip around in!
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I also use the Pocket and the goggles L (except I fly the pavo20 instead of mob8) and really like that stuff. Watch out that you buy batteries for your goggles and remote :D.
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just to clarify a few things here amongst all this generally good advice. both analog and digital goggles can have receiver bays and hdmi in, but not all of them do. it doesnt have anything to do with whether the built in transmission system is analog or digital. the video output of an analog goggle just might be composite.
walksnail released the avatar gt2 in April, so they are still actively releasing things for that system, but it probably wont be in production that much longer. none of their goggles have a great reputation though and many people dislike them for how long they have left issues with the goggles x unfixed, despite it just needing a firmware update.
you can get good image quality with analog, its not like its always fuzzed out or anything, in fact, there are many situations where I prefer the analog break up over the digital, which can just suddenly cut out instead of gradually warning you. An 800 tvl camera is not going to be the same as a 1500 tvl camera. Thats another bonus on analog, you have dozens of different camera options from nano race cams to full on thermal.
hdzero goggles are technically the most versatile out of all the options and no ones mentioned them yet. They have built in analog and digital, as well as hdmi in/out, and additional receiver bays. as well as design files available so you can model your own accessories for them. they even have a vtx that has hdmi in so you could use a GoPro/cinema camera for your fpv feed.
with whoops, bnf availability doesnt really matter, to build your own with an aio youre generally just talking about 4 motor plugs, some screws, and a camera connector.
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